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    Hi,
    We are very lucky to have a super quality green, in almost all respects bar one. It is a relatively new green - opened in 2000. When built it was built according to new standards - with excellent drainage etc etc. The area is very sandy - so, it drains well. It is seen in the county as being one of the best. So, ....... we really are very lucky. However, there is one problem. The amount of wormcasts is huge. We are lucky to have enough key people who swish the green every morning (more for getting rid of the dew, than worm casts - but it does both jobs). Some mornings, though, you can start swishing on one side of the green, and by the time you get to the other side, the first side is almost as bad as when you started.

    Today, the green is closed - because it isn't possible to cut it. Even though it was dry enough to cut - two of our members spent 45 minutes swishing the green, but the amount of material that was being spread around meant that it just couldn't be cut. The guy who mostly looks after the green now, took the mower around the edges just to see whether it might cope - but it didn't. The roller was caked in dirt.

    The unfortunate thing for us is, when we've had any kind of rain, the green gets like this. Looking at the green today - it isn't green, but mostly muddy brown. If you tried to play on it then it would be like the snowball rolling down the mountain side - gathering bits and getting bigger all of the time.

    Really not sure if there is a solution. We put on Purity a couple of weeks ago - perhaps made a slight difference, but not much. Not sure there any chemicals around that are both legal and effective enough now.

    Does anyone have any ideas?

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    happymrjames. I have PM'd you

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    ....pleased to say that using Purity has done the trick. It is obvious that next year we'll have to put quite a bit of money aside for this, as it isn't cheap - but, it is obviously an essential treatment for our green. A bucketful of worms were picked up last Thursday and the last few days have been relatively clear - at least, nothing like the mess it was previously.

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    OK. I’m new to this greenkeeping malarkey but I have to say the use of purity is alarming. You guys who use it and it’s manufactures know it’s use for control of worms is at best stretching the rules. That is why you call it a soil conditioner and not a poison. Hopefully with it’s continued misuse of sapins it will soon be on the banned list. Of the near forty types of worms we are likely to come across on a UK green only 3 cast so to get rid of this problem you are willing to kill off your best and best by a long shot aerators.
    Worms are there because you set the dinner table for them. Take that dinner away, thatch, and the worms will go! Scarify and regular verticuting. Spend money on a new reel for your verticuter not on harmful chemicals. If you kill the worms the worm food will still be there, given that rabbits are jealous of the rate worms breed how long before they are back?
    If you keep doing the same things you will get the same results!

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    Hi Kev, I agree it's not perfect. However, our green is worked on a lot. It is absolutely regularly verticut and spiked. It is scarified and much more besides. There is very little thatch on the green. If the worms can't be controlled then the green really does become unplayable due to the huge amount of detritus that appears. When it is at its worst - following extended periods of damp weather - you can attempt to swish and sweep the muck off (very difficult in the wet), but come back an hour later and it is as worse as it was before you swished. Not an easy solution.

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